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	<title>Mga puna sa: Sumilao Farmers or San Miguel Corparation: kanino kayo? </title>
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	<description>I mean that in a positive way. Pramis.</description>
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		<title>Ni: Mangangayam </title>
		<link>http://taroogs.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/sumilao-farmers-or-san-miguel-corparation-kanino-kayo/#comment-1849</link>
		<dc:creator>Mangangayam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then if that&#039;s the case, its not the history book of san vicente that should be changed, rather, the FAKE history that the FAKE Sumilao Farmer&#039;s are claiming... they might be LUMADS but im pretty sure they dont root from San Vicente.

Take it FROM ME....

&lt;strong&gt;Taroogs &lt;/strong&gt;- if you can recommend any book, article or position paper (even online ones) expounding on the genuine history of san vicente, i&#039;d be very interested to read it. seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then if that&#8217;s the case, its not the history book of san vicente that should be changed, rather, the FAKE history that the FAKE Sumilao Farmer&#8217;s are claiming&#8230; they might be LUMADS but im pretty sure they dont root from San Vicente.</p>
<p>Take it FROM ME&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>Taroogs </strong>- if you can recommend any book, article or position paper (even online ones) expounding on the genuine history of san vicente, i&#8217;d be very interested to read it. seriously.</p>
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		<title>Ni: Mangangayam </title>
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		<dc:creator>Mangangayam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ang Grand parents ko ang isa sa mga pamilya na naunang tumira sa Barangay San Vicente kung saan naroon ang contested na lupa... isa lang masasabi ko dyan, Kung gusto nyong malaman ang katotohanan, kung gusto nyong malaman kung sino talaga ang nag sisinungaling at kung totoong taga San Vicente ang sinasabi ninyong mga LUMAD na Higa-onon nga mga claimants na yan, tanungin nyo ang mga unang pamilya na tumira sa barangay na yan...

SUMILAO Farmers? they suck...

&lt;strong&gt;Taroogs &lt;/strong&gt;- i was under the impression that the Lumads are THE original residents of the area. Am not aware that another group predates them. So we have to change the history books then? :-( </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ang Grand parents ko ang isa sa mga pamilya na naunang tumira sa Barangay San Vicente kung saan naroon ang contested na lupa&#8230; isa lang masasabi ko dyan, Kung gusto nyong malaman ang katotohanan, kung gusto nyong malaman kung sino talaga ang nag sisinungaling at kung totoong taga San Vicente ang sinasabi ninyong mga LUMAD na Higa-onon nga mga claimants na yan, tanungin nyo ang mga unang pamilya na tumira sa barangay na yan&#8230;</p>
<p>SUMILAO Farmers? they suck&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Taroogs </strong>- i was under the impression that the Lumads are THE original residents of the area. Am not aware that another group predates them. So we have to change the history books then? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Ni: introvert_amplifier </title>
		<link>http://taroogs.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/sumilao-farmers-or-san-miguel-corparation-kanino-kayo/#comment-783</link>
		<dc:creator>introvert_amplifier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>may ganyang case din sa calatagan, batangas. san miguel din ang kalaban. sa coastal area tayuan ba ng gawaan ng semento. sang hinayupak ka nakakita ng ganoong takbo ng utak. dagat kaya yon. 

it&#039;s hard to depend on the governemnt since the people IN the government depends on these elites. 

si danding. lahat na yata ng isla may lupa. 

trabaho din ba ang pain sa kanila para hayaang mawala na lang ang lupa? anong trabaho taga pakain ng baboy. syempre hindi manageiral position e hindi naman sila umabot sa ganong lebel ng edukasyon. 

money can twist laws. it&#039;s not gloria who controls the country, it&#039;s the elites. the ayala, zobel, cojuangco, tan, sy at kung sino pa jan. pati si ricky reyes (if you know the issue in calatagan). 

their land gives them all they need. it is in the land the farmers can harness what they know because they grew up tilting the land. not with pigs!!!

&lt;strong&gt;Taroogs &lt;/strong&gt;- yup, am familiar with the Ricky Reyes&#039; land-grabbing in Calatagan (&lt;strong&gt;gahaman ang lola mo!&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;-- heto dapat ang catch phrase niya. hehe). Naalala ko tuloy yung isang tao na proponent ng theory na &quot;it is the corporations that rule the world, not governments&quot; Re sumilao - SMFI tried to blind the people and LGUs with visions of regular employment with education and health benefits, higher prices for locally-grown corn, and taxes :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>may ganyang case din sa calatagan, batangas. san miguel din ang kalaban. sa coastal area tayuan ba ng gawaan ng semento. sang hinayupak ka nakakita ng ganoong takbo ng utak. dagat kaya yon. </p>
<p>it&#8217;s hard to depend on the governemnt since the people IN the government depends on these elites. </p>
<p>si danding. lahat na yata ng isla may lupa. </p>
<p>trabaho din ba ang pain sa kanila para hayaang mawala na lang ang lupa? anong trabaho taga pakain ng baboy. syempre hindi manageiral position e hindi naman sila umabot sa ganong lebel ng edukasyon. </p>
<p>money can twist laws. it&#8217;s not gloria who controls the country, it&#8217;s the elites. the ayala, zobel, cojuangco, tan, sy at kung sino pa jan. pati si ricky reyes (if you know the issue in calatagan). </p>
<p>their land gives them all they need. it is in the land the farmers can harness what they know because they grew up tilting the land. not with pigs!!!</p>
<p><strong>Taroogs </strong>- yup, am familiar with the Ricky Reyes&#8217; land-grabbing in Calatagan (<strong>gahaman ang lola mo!</strong> &lt;&#8211; heto dapat ang catch phrase niya. hehe). Naalala ko tuloy yung isang tao na proponent ng theory na &#8220;it is the corporations that rule the world, not governments&#8221; Re sumilao &#8211; SMFI tried to blind the people and LGUs with visions of regular employment with education and health benefits, higher prices for locally-grown corn, and taxes <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Ni: Kayote </title>
		<link>http://taroogs.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/sumilao-farmers-or-san-miguel-corparation-kanino-kayo/#comment-776</link>
		<dc:creator>Kayote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meron ding mga taga- Sumilao mismo na mas panig sa SMFI. iniisip kc na magdadala daw ito ng employment sa mga tao dito. Nakakalungkot isipin na mas pipiliin pa pala ng iba na maging &#039;trabahante&#039; o &#039;empleyado&#039; kaysa mag-ari ng sariling lupain.
Sa ganitong pananaw makita natin na successful pala talaga and tinatawag nating &#039;neo-colonial mentality&#039;. Kailan ba tayo matutong tumindig sa ating mga sariling paa at huwag pabayaang ang iba ang dumikta sa buhay natin?

&lt;strong&gt;Taroogs &lt;/strong&gt;- at pati ang mga LGU sa sumilao ay &quot;nanghihinayang&quot; sa nawalang buwis na ibabayad sana ng babuyang ito. mahirap talagang manindigan kapag mahirap at gutom (at nasanay na sa ilang dekadang pagiging &quot;alaga&quot; ng mga mas mayaman at mas makapangyarihan. tsk.)... this makes the efforts of the Sumilao Farmers even more amazing. Padayon mga kauban!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meron ding mga taga- Sumilao mismo na mas panig sa SMFI. iniisip kc na magdadala daw ito ng employment sa mga tao dito. Nakakalungkot isipin na mas pipiliin pa pala ng iba na maging &#8216;trabahante&#8217; o &#8216;empleyado&#8217; kaysa mag-ari ng sariling lupain.<br />
Sa ganitong pananaw makita natin na successful pala talaga and tinatawag nating &#8216;neo-colonial mentality&#8217;. Kailan ba tayo matutong tumindig sa ating mga sariling paa at huwag pabayaang ang iba ang dumikta sa buhay natin?</p>
<p><strong>Taroogs </strong>- at pati ang mga LGU sa sumilao ay &#8220;nanghihinayang&#8221; sa nawalang buwis na ibabayad sana ng babuyang ito. mahirap talagang manindigan kapag mahirap at gutom (at nasanay na sa ilang dekadang pagiging &#8220;alaga&#8221; ng mga mas mayaman at mas makapangyarihan. tsk.)&#8230; this makes the efforts of the Sumilao Farmers even more amazing. Padayon mga kauban!</p>
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		<title>Ni: kathang isip </title>
		<link>http://taroogs.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/sumilao-farmers-or-san-miguel-corparation-kanino-kayo/#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator>kathang isip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just imagine kung ilang pamilya ang magsusuffer kung ipapahintulot nila ang sumilao na gawing isang &quot;hog farm&quot;.

whoah!talgang the rich gets richer,and the poor..(stagnant). LOL

&lt;strong&gt;Taroogs &lt;/strong&gt;- ang nakakalungkot lang, andami pa din ang mga nag-iisip na &quot;for the greater good&quot; daw yung pagkakaroon ng industrial babuyan sa lupa ng mga magsasaka ng sumilao... ganun na ba tayo ka-cynical talaga? di bale nang maghirap ng todo ang 155 katao basta &quot;for the greater good&quot;? :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just imagine kung ilang pamilya ang magsusuffer kung ipapahintulot nila ang sumilao na gawing isang &#8220;hog farm&#8221;.</p>
<p>whoah!talgang the rich gets richer,and the poor..(stagnant). LOL</p>
<p><strong>Taroogs </strong>- ang nakakalungkot lang, andami pa din ang mga nag-iisip na &#8220;for the greater good&#8221; daw yung pagkakaroon ng industrial babuyan sa lupa ng mga magsasaka ng sumilao&#8230; ganun na ba tayo ka-cynical talaga? di bale nang maghirap ng todo ang 155 katao basta &#8220;for the greater good&#8221;? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Ni: BURAOT </title>
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		<dc:creator>BURAOT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pag smb, ke danding pwe. pag ab naman ke lucio tan, pwe din. hmppt! no choice.

i-boycott ang beer. drink lambanog!

&lt;strong&gt;Taroogs &lt;/strong&gt;- pwede ring mag-&lt;em&gt;tapuey&lt;/em&gt; o &lt;em&gt;basi&lt;/em&gt; na la-ang! kaso anlayo ng suppliers. hehehe (laguna, baguio, ilocos). wala sa neighborhood sari-sari :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pag smb, ke danding pwe. pag ab naman ke lucio tan, pwe din. hmppt! no choice.</p>
<p>i-boycott ang beer. drink lambanog!</p>
<p><strong>Taroogs </strong>- pwede ring mag-<em>tapuey</em> o <em>basi</em> na la-ang! kaso anlayo ng suppliers. hehehe (laguna, baguio, ilocos). wala sa neighborhood sari-sari <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Ni: homebodyhubby </title>
		<link>http://taroogs.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/sumilao-farmers-or-san-miguel-corparation-kanino-kayo/#comment-676</link>
		<dc:creator>homebodyhubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe... lupang pinagkakabuhayan, gagawin lang na hasyenda ng mga patabaing &quot;BABOY&quot;?

hindi lang ako sure, pero may naipanalo na bang &#039;kaso&#039; laban sa mga &quot;PADER&quot; na yan?

ako man hindi na mangangabayo -- magti-tyaga na lang ako sa tuba at lambanog!

&lt;strong&gt;Taroogs&lt;/strong&gt; - alam ko natalo recently si Boss Danding sa coco levy issue... pero sa San Mig e hindi talaga siya matinag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe&#8230; lupang pinagkakabuhayan, gagawin lang na hasyenda ng mga patabaing &#8220;BABOY&#8221;?</p>
<p>hindi lang ako sure, pero may naipanalo na bang &#8216;kaso&#8217; laban sa mga &#8220;PADER&#8221; na yan?</p>
<p>ako man hindi na mangangabayo &#8212; magti-tyaga na lang ako sa tuba at lambanog!</p>
<p><strong>Taroogs</strong> &#8211; alam ko natalo recently si Boss Danding sa coco levy issue&#8230; pero sa San Mig e hindi talaga siya matinag.</p>
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		<title>Ni: kengkay </title>
		<link>http://taroogs.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/sumilao-farmers-or-san-miguel-corparation-kanino-kayo/#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator>kengkay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>talagang goodbye red horse ka na ha. tama naman.

&lt;strong&gt;Taroogs &lt;/strong&gt;- mahirap pong magsalita ng tapos, mareng kengks... malay natin... bumait din balang araw ang San Miguel? heheh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>talagang goodbye red horse ka na ha. tama naman.</p>
<p><strong>Taroogs </strong>- mahirap pong magsalita ng tapos, mareng kengks&#8230; malay natin&#8230; bumait din balang araw ang San Miguel? heheh</p>
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		<title>Ni: koreanmine </title>
		<link>http://taroogs.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/sumilao-farmers-or-san-miguel-corparation-kanino-kayo/#comment-668</link>
		<dc:creator>koreanmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>di na nga ako mag ha happy horse ngaung xmas eh, Colt 45 na lng sabi ni selvo :D

&lt;strong&gt;Taroogs&lt;/strong&gt; - honga... marami pang ibang matatapang na bir sa tabi-tabi :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>di na nga ako mag ha happy horse ngaung xmas eh, Colt 45 na lng sabi ni selvo <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Taroogs</strong> &#8211; honga&#8230; marami pang ibang matatapang na bir sa tabi-tabi <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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